tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post7715897311972305085..comments2023-10-22T12:21:47.291-04:00Comments on Geoffrey Philp: House Slaves, Field Slaves & Dead SlavesGeoffrey Philphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13442948340176713964noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-36130798161771603252009-08-08T21:04:21.907-04:002009-08-08T21:04:21.907-04:00.
On the topic of 'house and field slave'....<br /><br />On the topic of 'house and field slave' -- <br />as well as that of 'dark and light skin' -- <br />I thought you all might enjoy reading the <br />information found in the following links.<br /><br />http://boards.mulatto.org/post/show_single_post?pid=34070161&postcount;=13<br /><br />http://boards.mulatto.org/post/show_single_post?pid=34070414&postcount;=14<br /><br />Please feel free to pass them <br />along -- and have a nice day.<br /><br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-33799196399316972222009-07-06T19:37:46.543-04:002009-07-06T19:37:46.543-04:00.
http://www.transmyth.com/blog/?p=79&cpage;=....<br /><br />http://www.transmyth.com/blog/?p=79&cpage;=1#comment-171<br /><br />http://boards.mulatto.org/post/show_single_post?pid=34070161&postcount;=13<br /><br /><br />http://newsblaze.com/story/20090621155502zzzz.nb/topstory.html <br /><br />http://boards.mulatto.org/post/show_single_post?pid=34070414&postcount;=14<br /><br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-59315483303309722032008-09-24T12:12:00.000-04:002008-09-24T12:12:00.000-04:00Amen. We all would love to think that we would ha...Amen. We all would love to think that we would have been the defiant one, but look at what we live with today. Although we are not in chains, there is so much that is holding us down [including ourselves] and so much that the government imposes on us as a nation. Yet, we complain and just go on with our lives. There are few of us who will stand up and fight, but most won't. Besides, we have good positions in the "House."Stephen A. Besshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13608563855643263599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-80463377385474267642008-09-24T07:58:00.000-04:002008-09-24T07:58:00.000-04:00Dear Jayda,Welcome!Give thanks. Yes, I believe it ...Dear Jayda,<BR/><BR/>Welcome!<BR/><BR/>Give thanks. Yes, I believe it was their faith in the future..."one day, one day" that kept them going and we honor that memory by being our best selves.<BR/><BR/>1Love,<BR/>GeoffreyGeoffrey Philphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13442948340176713964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-9703577514216661442008-09-23T21:07:00.000-04:002008-09-23T21:07:00.000-04:00Glad I came over. Dale Wade has been encouraging m...Glad I came over. Dale Wade has been encouraging me to come visit. <BR/><BR/>Good reminder to give thanks for those who paved the way for us. It’s easy to sport nonsense from the comfortable space we occupy in the world today. As bad as things may be for some of us, our situation cannot company to the dehumanizing conditions our ancestors faced in their dayJ.L. Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666634455836834179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-9854806451077056872008-09-23T08:34:00.000-04:002008-09-23T08:34:00.000-04:00Fragano, my brother,Give thanks for spreading the ...Fragano, my brother,<BR/><BR/>Give thanks for spreading the wisdom about slavery.<BR/><BR/>I have received many offline comments about this post, so this adds to our knowledge about this "sensitive" topic.<BR/><BR/>One Love,<BR/>GeoffreyGeoffrey Philphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13442948340176713964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-35940255830952389352008-09-23T08:25:00.000-04:002008-09-23T08:25:00.000-04:00In addition, slavery was a normal part of human re...In addition, slavery was a <I>normal</I> part of human reality until relatively recent times. The form of slavery that existed in the Americas from the sixteenth to nineteeth centuries, industrialised chattel slavery was simply an extreme form of the institution adapted to the emergence of capitalism in the same period. Indeed, capitalism as it developed relied on slave labour to produce some of the essentials for its developments and to pioneer some of the frontier territories (Brazil, the American South, the Caribbean) that produced the raw materials for the factories of the industrial capitalist heartland in Britain, Belgium and the northeastern United States. It was the industrial nature of capitalism that gave American (in the broadest sense of the word) slavery its particularly brutal qualities as well as its immense scale both in space and time. As Eric Williams pointed out, it was also industrial capitalism that rendered that slavery unnecessary in the long run and created some of the conditions for its destruction (though Williams did not consider the rise of an industrial proletariat inherently hostile to enslaved labour as part of that process). The industrial conditions of slavery, as other historians, such as C.L.R. James and W.E.B. Du Bois have pointed out <I>proletarianised</I> the slaves and made them into active agents of their own liberation. <BR/><BR/>That was a slow process, since it required the cultural delegitimation of slavery itself, something which did not completely occur in the Western world till after the abolition of slavery. Even among the enslaved, I should note. The Berbice Rebellion of 1763, which was temporarily successful, led to the victors maintaining the enslavement of those slaves who had not revolted (until they were re-enslaved themselves).FSJLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15803079547494458258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-60107125709030975612008-09-22T19:08:00.000-04:002008-09-22T19:08:00.000-04:00Fragano, Jdid, and Barbados,Give thanks for the co...Fragano, Jdid, and Barbados,<BR/><BR/>Give thanks for the comments which shed necessary light on the issue.<BR/><BR/>I won't say it doesn't bother me, but I can also say that the people who make these kinds of comments are usually doing nothing right now to uplift I and I.<BR/><BR/>So I look at the deeds and not the words.<BR/><BR/>1Love,<BR/>GeoffreyGeoffrey Philphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13442948340176713964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-48431796638916747932008-09-22T17:38:00.000-04:002008-09-22T17:38:00.000-04:00Wonderful post and I must say it is very interesti...Wonderful post and I must say it is very interesting. <BR/><BR/>My take on the matter is simple and not complex at all. The human makeup is such that man would do almost anything to survive even in the face of danger or inhumanity. So whether the slave was field slave, a house slave, or what ever other category, the issue was the same, slavery. The house slave got raped just the same as the field slave. The whip was not kind to one and not the other. Any slave would have done anything to survive. It is the instinct of man. And us as Black folks, the descendants, have to admire the strength it took to go through such a horrific period.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately Geoffrey, you are going to hear that rhetoric again. All you can do is move on.iqpLENShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15521839116477683470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-70191235435754393492008-09-22T10:46:00.000-04:002008-09-22T10:46:00.000-04:00I've had this conversation before and I blame Brot...I've had this conversation before and I blame Brother Malcolm. Not that he was completely incorrect with his allegory but I think it was a simplified one that has as time gone on become completely twisted<BR/><BR/>Another point I'm made before is that its all rather fanciful for us to sit and theorize on what we would have done in the face of slavery seeing that none of us has ever had to deal with those horrors. Yea we'd all like to think we'd be these honorable, courageous kinta kunte types but its just human nature that most of us probably wouldnt be. so most arguments about what the person would and wouldnt have done in the face of slavery is just silly posturing.Jdidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08493622796742761799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19836501.post-82161005577351862152008-09-22T08:47:00.000-04:002008-09-22T08:47:00.000-04:00The 'house slave/field slave' thing is his...The 'house slave/field slave' thing is historical nonsense, for all that it has been retailed by reputable historians. <BR/><BR/>The division on the plantation was between field slaves and non-field slaves. Household slaves were a sub-division of non-field slaves, who included skilled tradesmen such as coopers, masons, and carpenters, as well as slaves in such outdoor occupations as fishing.<BR/><BR/>Field slaves had their own subdivisions (for example, into gangs), and their own hierarchies, including the slave drivers.<BR/><BR/>The house/field subdivision your interlocutor presented does not account for urban slavery (which included both household and non-household slaves in occupations like trading, prostitution, road construction, shipping, stevedoring, &c.<BR/><BR/>And the incidence of miscegenation had little to do with whether the slaves worked in the household or not.FSJLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15803079547494458258noreply@blogger.com